Sunday, July 17, 2005

Blarney and Dave Discuss Iraq

Blarney: This Bush is always lying.
Dave: What do you mean?
Blarney: Take this "War on Terror" thing. We know it was all about Oil and Haliburton. Bush keeps changing his story because he won't admit the truth.
Dave: Can you explain that?
Blarney: Sure. First it was all about WMD. When those didn't show up it was all about deposing an awful tyrant.
Then it was this nonsense about establishing a Democracy. He is trying to force freedom down their throats and he still won't admit the real purpose of the War.
Dave: But on March 19, 2003 as Operation Iraqi Freedom began, he said: My fellow citizens, at this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military
operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.

And on March 22, 2003 he said: And our mission is clear, to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism, and to free the Iraqi people.
Blarney: Wow! Thanks for proving my point.
Dave: Huh?
Blarney: "Yes' I thought he couldn't keep his story straight for two years. You just showed he changed the reason three times in a single sentence. See what I told you, he is a complete liar.
Dave: *sigh*
Blarney: And you know there is absolutely no connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. That's why al Qaeda attacked London.
Dave: Now what are you talking about?
Blarney: Well, if the US and England had not invaded Iraq and continued their oppression of the mullahs, the London bombings would not have occurred.
Dave: But I thought there was no connection.
Blarney Right.
Dave: * sigh *
Blarney And another thing, this war was supposed to be a cakewalk. Already it has been almost four months past two years. That's the biggest quagmire in history!
Dave: But President Bush said on March 20, 2003: A campaign on harsh terrain in a vast country could be longer and more difficult than some have predicted.
Blarney Yeah, but Bush is an idiot. The military thought it would be a cakewalk.
Dave: Well, General Tommy Franks describes his thinking in American Soldier, and he said (page 373) I hoped that this briefing would squelch speculation that a decisive operation in Iraq would be a simple matter requiring relatively few troops. Some staffers in the Pentagon had suggested that one heavy division with massive air support could kick open a door, through which exiled Iraqi opposition groups would march triumphantly to liberate their country. This line of thinking was absurd, and I wanted to terminate it as quickly as possible.
Blarney: There, you see. You even admitted that the Pentagon thought it would be easy.
Dave: But the president is the Commander in Chief and General Franks was CINC CENTCOM at the time.
Blarney: So what? You told me that Pentagon personnel thought it would be easy. That's because they knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.
Dave: Now, Blarney, look at what General Franks had to say about that in his book:
(p 353) Primary among my assumptions was that Iraq possessed and would use weapons of mass destruction, so our forces would likely be fighting in a toxic environment. Intelligence operations would attempt to confirm the extent and locations of Iraq's WMD programs and the regime's doctrine for use of WMD, but without a robust human intelligence infrastructure - which we did not have - I was not confident we would be able to preempt WMD use.
Blarney: Just like I've always said, they were willing to sacrifice thousands of American lives just to get Hussein. They didn't care that there would be massive slaughter of our troops with chemicals.
Dave: OK, look at page 372:
Weather was also a factor. Since our troops would likely be fighting in MOPP suits to protect against chemical and biological weapons, the mid-summer daytime heat, which could reach 130 degrees Fahrenheit, constituted a yellow light. And the sandstorms of early spring were another obstacle to avoid if at all possible. "Therefore, Mr. President," I said, "optimum operational timing would be from December to mid-March."
Blarney: You know, Dave, I thought you were intelligent, but you have not disproved a thing I said, and you refuse to believe that you are just a puppet of Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh.
Dave: But I quoted exactly what the president and General Franks were saying in the early phase of the war.
Blarney: My point, exactly.
Dave: I give up.
Blarney: See. You could not even hold a candle to me in the debate. When faced with logic, you guys just resort to name calling. You are a complete LOOOOOSER. Paint an "L" on your forehead, fascist!
Dave: * sigh *

8 comments:

Kajun said...

Obviously you are close to perfecting the "Blarney and Dave Debate"...it just keeps getting better and better!

Pat'sRick© said...

Thanks.
I originally had a preamble to this explaining that it had started as a random thought on Scrappleface. However, in the course of editing it, I lost the preamble. Probably doesn't need it, since Scrappleface is on my blog roll.

Hawkeye® said...

Good piece! Sounds like a real interview I heard on Fox News the other day. Are those LLL's (Looney Left-Wing Liberals) wacko... or what?

camojack said...

* sigh *

LebenFrei said...

Have you been on a smart pill regimen lately? You get smarter and smarter all the time. This was a beautiful dialogue which is so true to actuality as experienced by me with my brother-in-law (who is a great guy by the way) who seems totally brainwashed by the Dimocratic Party (is it still a Party or has it become a Riot). By means of a fictitious dialogue, you have made all your points without even becoming angry or resorting to name calling. If only the rest of the misinformed could be as reasonable. Great job.

Pat'sRick© said...

Thanks. The whole series grew out of a random thought when I was doing the serious posts. I thought "some goof ball will see this quote (Mar 22, 2003) and claim Bush couldn't help changing the rationale in a single sentence". Then it sort of took on a life of its own. I'm working on an expanded version of the Rove discussion, but things like work and family keep interfering.

MargeinMI said...

Darn those things that keep you from entertaining us with more Dave and Blarney! ;o)

Thanks for all the great emails lately, too.

Pat'sRick© said...

Glad to be of service.