Monday, October 05, 2009

Eat Right, Part 3

I would like to follow up on a thread from a previous post. In it I stated that I was mad at the "faith" people. I must admit, I am one of them. There is a general misunderstanding about the teachings of faith. It has been labeled the "name it and claim it" or "blab it and grab it" movement by people who do not really listen to the message. For years Christianity was known as the "Great Confession." Evidently someone was saying something. What folks failed to realize about confession was that it means "saying the same thing (to speak together)." It basically means to agree with YHWH about the situation. Faith begins where the Word of God is known.

Forsaking All I Take Him (at His word) = Faith. False Evidence Appearing Real = Fear. I had an object lesson in this at Disney World of all places. Once upon a time there was a movie called "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride" which Disney turned into an attraction. At one point on the ride the overwhelming physical evidence was that you are on a train track and the train is bearing down on you from in front. The noise, the lights, the shaking all contributed to the effect. That was False Evidence Appearing Real. Now, in spite of the emotional connotations, we knew that Disney would not just run their customers down with a train. If only we had that much faith in YHWH.

YHWH was the only One present at creation. Everyone else has to try and figure what happened by looking at the evidence. The problem with evidence is that we always come to it with our own filters firmly in place. It is a fact that the fossil record does not present one smooth transition from goo to you. Is that because intermediate fossils were somehow lost? Or did they never exist in the first place? The answers to those questions are not a part of the record. Honest people can disagree as to the "correct"answer, because it does not matter to the actual record. The fact is there are gaps. To one person that is proof that gradual evolution did not occur. To another, it is proof that there are things yet to be learned.

And so it is with the "believing God" folks. Some of them are actually trying to believe themselves. That did not work for Satan. (OF course, you could make the argument that he very nearly pulled it off.) Believing God comes down to the quite precise science of … well … believing GOD. Whatever He said must be true. As Mary the Mother of Jesus said, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do it.

Thus endeth the sermon for today.


camojack said...

Ah, yes...the fossil record. Inconvenient for the literal Creationists who believe that God made the world approximately 6,000 years ago, give or take a millennium.

My personal version of the situation takes into account what is said elsewhere in the Bible, as in: "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." Going by that, the six days in the Creation account may have been (at least!) 6,000 years, not to mention all of those long-lived folks in the Old Testament.

I don't think the minutia is all that important anyway; the most important things are to "Love the Lord your God" and "Love your neighbor". Everything else proceeds from thence, Amen...

Hawkeye® said...

Hi Rick,

I was a member of one of those faith churches for awhile. I ran into trouble however, when I started asking the Pastor to explain what Jesus meant when he said: "In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." --John 16:33 KJV

I know now that "tribulation" is primarily "persecution", and as such it comes from Satan. But the passage got me questioning the "name it - claim it" philosophy. I just couldn't reconcile the two different images in my mind...

On the one hand, I had this faith group who refused to talk about "bad things" because "you can speak things into existence". They were overwhelmingly "positive" almost to the point of absurdity. They were into claiming health and prosperity for themselves, which seemed a bit selfish and materialistic to me.

On the other hand, I had Jesus saying things like: "Take up your cross" and "ye shall have tribulation". My image of Christ was (and still is) the suffering servant who gives rather than takes. And He asks us to emulate His sufferings.

I won't deny that Jesus taught us to have faith, but He also taught us to have humility. And humility was something that seemed to be lacking in those "name it - claim it" people. So before long, I left that congregation. It just didn't feel right to me.

Best regards...